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	<title>Comments on: Don&#8217;t complain about the broken &#8220;skills pipeline&#8221; &#8211; fix it!!</title>
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		<title>By: Vaughan Storey</title>
		<link>https://softwareengineer.org.za/dont-complain-about-the-broken-skills-pipline-fix-it/146/comment-page-1/#comment-119</link>
		<dc:creator>Vaughan Storey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jun 2010 12:19:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good afternoon Barry

Like yourself I have also spent many years looking into skills availability in South Africa and my finding&#039;s differ from many...Barry in terms of expertise to customer demands SA does not have a skills shortage, the dilemma lies in the fact that there are simply too many IT sector services providers all living off the same clients drawing from the same skills pool...The market is over traded.

10 years ago there were a couple of hundred IT firms in SA with smaller companies haviing a average of 50 staff each, today there our thousands of SME System Houses with skills pools of 10 or less with many simply body shopping to a single organisation based on a special relationship or offering highly niche skills.  

My own records show that we have lost 18% of our veteran skills pool (7 years plus experience) to off shore retirement else starting families etc...But the number of new professionals more than offset these losses.

Our other issue is the IT Recruitment sector...The job of finding rare skills today requires investments in market research and supporting technology, going on to data mine multiple search engines and networking sites both on and offshore as the manner in which professionals search for oppertunities has changed.

Many IT firms do not need market reach as they live well farming clients whilst recruitment firms do not have to work too hard to make their numbers due to fee values...Hence do not need to make investments in their delivery capability...Creating a vacuum in the delivery chain.

UK European USA and Australian recruitment firms run very powerful delivery infrastructures...Hence in terms of skills retention locally SA is a sitting duck when these organisations muscle into our skills pools...Which will increase in late 2010 as their economies recover.

As a Systems Recruiter in SA for several years I seldom have a problem finding a skill set to a location to a industry to a cost but often fail to deliver when asked for a BEE catagory as a search factor, nobodies fault...it&#039;s simply a mathematical fact.

There you go...my pennies worth of input.

Vaughan Storey]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good afternoon Barry</p>
<p>Like yourself I have also spent many years looking into skills availability in South Africa and my finding&#8217;s differ from many&#8230;Barry in terms of expertise to customer demands SA does not have a skills shortage, the dilemma lies in the fact that there are simply too many IT sector services providers all living off the same clients drawing from the same skills pool&#8230;The market is over traded.</p>
<p>10 years ago there were a couple of hundred IT firms in SA with smaller companies haviing a average of 50 staff each, today there our thousands of SME System Houses with skills pools of 10 or less with many simply body shopping to a single organisation based on a special relationship or offering highly niche skills.  </p>
<p>My own records show that we have lost 18% of our veteran skills pool (7 years plus experience) to off shore retirement else starting families etc&#8230;But the number of new professionals more than offset these losses.</p>
<p>Our other issue is the IT Recruitment sector&#8230;The job of finding rare skills today requires investments in market research and supporting technology, going on to data mine multiple search engines and networking sites both on and offshore as the manner in which professionals search for oppertunities has changed.</p>
<p>Many IT firms do not need market reach as they live well farming clients whilst recruitment firms do not have to work too hard to make their numbers due to fee values&#8230;Hence do not need to make investments in their delivery capability&#8230;Creating a vacuum in the delivery chain.</p>
<p>UK European USA and Australian recruitment firms run very powerful delivery infrastructures&#8230;Hence in terms of skills retention locally SA is a sitting duck when these organisations muscle into our skills pools&#8230;Which will increase in late 2010 as their economies recover.</p>
<p>As a Systems Recruiter in SA for several years I seldom have a problem finding a skill set to a location to a industry to a cost but often fail to deliver when asked for a BEE catagory as a search factor, nobodies fault&#8230;it&#8217;s simply a mathematical fact.</p>
<p>There you go&#8230;my pennies worth of input.</p>
<p>Vaughan Storey</p>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>https://softwareengineer.org.za/dont-complain-about-the-broken-skills-pipline-fix-it/146/comment-page-1/#comment-35</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Apr 2010 07:53:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In Germany (for example), large Engineering companies are sponsoring Chair-Professorships (in German terminology: &quot;Lehrstuhl&quot;) at reputable universities. Now show me any South African commercial IT business or CEO who is long-term-funding or sponsoring a Computer Science or Software Engineering professorship (equivalent to a German &quot;Lehrstuhl&quot;) at any reputable South African university, and this CEO gets from me a package of biltong and a crate of beer (whereby unfortunately I cannot offer him any more than that, due to my lowly salary - in fact my external MSc nd PhD students are earning considerably more than I as their supervisor).

However in reality it&#039;s exactly the other way round - here at university we struggle to find and to keep intelligent and helpful tutors and junior lecturers for our students, because the South African IT industry is sucking them into their business like a sponge absorbs a drop of water. The South African IT industry, in my opinion, are greedily eating the seed corns which were supposed to be planted into the soil for the next harvest of crop. But such is business; they think in terms of their quarterly shareholder reports - and that&#039;s it.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In Germany (for example), large Engineering companies are sponsoring Chair-Professorships (in German terminology: &#8220;Lehrstuhl&#8221;) at reputable universities. Now show me any South African commercial IT business or CEO who is long-term-funding or sponsoring a Computer Science or Software Engineering professorship (equivalent to a German &#8220;Lehrstuhl&#8221;) at any reputable South African university, and this CEO gets from me a package of biltong and a crate of beer (whereby unfortunately I cannot offer him any more than that, due to my lowly salary &#8211; in fact my external MSc nd PhD students are earning considerably more than I as their supervisor).</p>
<p>However in reality it&#8217;s exactly the other way round &#8211; here at university we struggle to find and to keep intelligent and helpful tutors and junior lecturers for our students, because the South African IT industry is sucking them into their business like a sponge absorbs a drop of water. The South African IT industry, in my opinion, are greedily eating the seed corns which were supposed to be planted into the soil for the next harvest of crop. But such is business; they think in terms of their quarterly shareholder reports &#8211; and that&#8217;s it.</p>
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		<title>By: Marius de Beer</title>
		<link>https://softwareengineer.org.za/dont-complain-about-the-broken-skills-pipline-fix-it/146/comment-page-1/#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Marius de Beer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 15:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Roderick is right on all counts.  Barry, you said it all with - “It is essential, however, to share information about these solutions and find ways to scale them up.”  To me this is where our [the industry’s] focus must be.  How many of the ICT enterprises know of these initiatives?  How many support these initiatives?  How many are willing to share their own initiatives?  Let’s hold each other accountable to share and scale solutions.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Roderick is right on all counts.  Barry, you said it all with &#8211; “It is essential, however, to share information about these solutions and find ways to scale them up.”  To me this is where our [the industry’s] focus must be.  How many of the ICT enterprises know of these initiatives?  How many support these initiatives?  How many are willing to share their own initiatives?  Let’s hold each other accountable to share and scale solutions.</p>
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		<title>By: Roderick Lim Banda</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roderick Lim Banda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Apr 2010 10:36:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The initiatives you mention are very promising and I think all the partnerships need to be applauded. What I took out from comment and work done by Marius de Beer is that he identifies the need for companies to take the initiative. There is some very negative criticism and much that can be justified in terms of government policies on education, academia, school systems and universities but the reality is that our educators have a very huge load and burden. Filling this gap needs to come from passionate individuals, professionals and more importantly from those enterprises that will ultimately benefit in one way or the other. Its a bit like the tragedy of the commons. But absolutely, it is heartening to see the work being done to address this and it should encourage us all to action, take responsibility and get involved.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The initiatives you mention are very promising and I think all the partnerships need to be applauded. What I took out from comment and work done by Marius de Beer is that he identifies the need for companies to take the initiative. There is some very negative criticism and much that can be justified in terms of government policies on education, academia, school systems and universities but the reality is that our educators have a very huge load and burden. Filling this gap needs to come from passionate individuals, professionals and more importantly from those enterprises that will ultimately benefit in one way or the other. Its a bit like the tragedy of the commons. But absolutely, it is heartening to see the work being done to address this and it should encourage us all to action, take responsibility and get involved.</p>
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