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	<title>Comments on: So you want to start a business? Come jam with us!</title>
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	<description>Passionate about the SA software industry</description>
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		<title>By: Stefan</title>
		<link>https://softwareengineer.org.za/so-you-want-to-start-a-business-come-jam-with-us/318/comment-page-1/#comment-257</link>
		<dc:creator>Stefan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Oct 2010 15:36:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have just had the rare and nice opportunity to speak to a project manager who is working for a well-known South African software producer with international connections. (For an academic working at university, like myself, chances to meet industrial project managers are rather small.)

I have asked this man if any big industrial insurance company (e.g. Loyd) would be willing to financially insure a software project from going &quot;pear-shaped&quot;, in a similar way in which Loyd would (for example) financially insure a cargo ship full of container freight against sinking in the ocean on its way between the ports of Durban and Shanghai.

The project manager answered: &quot;no&quot;, Loyd would not insure a software project against failure, and he also said that they had really tried to get such an insurance policy from Loyd.

What does this &quot;no&quot; from Loyd imply? It implies that, for a big industrial insurance company it is /easier/ to statistically calculate and quantify in financial terms the risk of a cargo ship sinking in the middle of the ocean between Durban and Shanghai, than to calculate and quantify in financial terms the risk of a software project going &quot;pear-shaped&quot;.

Doesn&#039;t this story tell us a lot about our current &quot;state of the art&quot; in software engineering in these days?

Thus I send best wishes to all the new and young software entrepreneurs - I admire your optimism against all odds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have just had the rare and nice opportunity to speak to a project manager who is working for a well-known South African software producer with international connections. (For an academic working at university, like myself, chances to meet industrial project managers are rather small.)</p>
<p>I have asked this man if any big industrial insurance company (e.g. Loyd) would be willing to financially insure a software project from going &#8220;pear-shaped&#8221;, in a similar way in which Loyd would (for example) financially insure a cargo ship full of container freight against sinking in the ocean on its way between the ports of Durban and Shanghai.</p>
<p>The project manager answered: &#8220;no&#8221;, Loyd would not insure a software project against failure, and he also said that they had really tried to get such an insurance policy from Loyd.</p>
<p>What does this &#8220;no&#8221; from Loyd imply? It implies that, for a big industrial insurance company it is /easier/ to statistically calculate and quantify in financial terms the risk of a cargo ship sinking in the middle of the ocean between Durban and Shanghai, than to calculate and quantify in financial terms the risk of a software project going &#8220;pear-shaped&#8221;.</p>
<p>Doesn&#8217;t this story tell us a lot about our current &#8220;state of the art&#8221; in software engineering in these days?</p>
<p>Thus I send best wishes to all the new and young software entrepreneurs &#8211; I admire your optimism against all odds.</p>
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		<title>By: David Jagoe</title>
		<link>https://softwareengineer.org.za/so-you-want-to-start-a-business-come-jam-with-us/318/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>David Jagoe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Sep 2010 07:20:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a direct link to the event page where you can register your interest: http://jcse.org.za/events/startup-session

If you have any questions, you are welcome to contact me: david.jagoe@pragmagility.com or 0720198335.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a direct link to the event page where you can register your interest: <a href="http://jcse.org.za/events/startup-session" rel="nofollow">http://jcse.org.za/events/startup-session</a></p>
<p>If you have any questions, you are welcome to contact me: <a href="mailto:david.jagoe@pragmagility.com">david.jagoe@pragmagility.com</a> or 0720198335.</p>
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